Government: run-of-the-mill peacenik crustcore that has all the necessary trappings (screamed male/female vocals, pc politics) yet still seems to ring a little…umm…fake. More succinctly, they sound about as real as any one of those Doors tribute bands. Defiant: More of the same, a little better, but cheesy lyrics bring ‘em right back down into the gutter. I guess this is the end result of the musical equivalent of taking an original and Xeroxing it over and over and over until the quality of your copies is so bad that you can no longer see what the original was about. Whatever.

 –jimmy (Square of Opposition)